Wenger's lack of spending

[Sinbad]

Arsenal always try and do things on the cheap.

The fans should all refuse to pay the ticket prices and new shirts and as a protest if Flamini leaves.

[Sinbad]

Wenger has not got the managment skills when it comes to signing big players.

He find players on the cheap and signs young unknown players or players who have failed and need a new start. Henry, Vieira both failed in italy before we signed them. Wenger likes to spend around £7m on a player and if they fail then no big deal. The only time he has went over the £7m was Reyes,Wiltord, Jeffers can all hardly be counted as good signings.Wenger likes to sign the £250k afircan and try and turn them into a good play. But like some of you have already said this can take time.
Will all the kids that he has signed how many got sold and signed without even making a first team start or just a few? Van der berg,Lupoli, Seb Larrson,Sward just to name a few.

hutchy08 so you dont think Villa Quaresma or Modric would improve our team? They are 3 world class players and would improve any team.

Wenger was worked magic for a number of years signing players and making them into better players but he needs to mix it up and sign a few players of a higher standerd.

[Highbury93]

Arsenal always try and do things on the cheap.

The fans should all refuse to pay the ticket prices and new shirts and as a protest if Flamini leaves.

I could honestly see The chelski 'fans' doing that

[cescflamhleb]

Original poster is right.

All the money BS has to stop. I'm not saying go into debt like ManU or depend on some Russian like Chelsea, but when there is money to spend and a player deserves it it shouldn't be an issue.

We need to keep this squad together and win trophies the next 3 to 4 years, end of story.

[cescflamhleb]

modric. gone over this plenty of times, we cant sign him while rosicky is still here, there 2 similar and there both 2 good to be in the ame squad, one will be happy, rosickys will be injury free next season and if he does become plagued again then yea get rid and bring someone in!

quaresma, good player would give us different options, but again someone would have to be sold as he wont accept a place on the bench neither will rosicky or hleb

this is retarded and this is the problem.

they will have to accept some sort of rotation or a place on the bench occasioanlly. these players have to realize they can't do it all by themselves. i don't understand why you think that hleb or tomas wouldn't sit down for one or two out of four games to give someone who they know can be their equal a chance. it would be better for the squad.

do you have some inside arsenal information, because i've never heard this stuff. is it that our players aren't willing to sit or that they don't have to because we don't have the depth?

top players at top clubs have to accept rotation and time on the bench so that the team can accomplish what it rightfully should. if hleb or rosicky (or anyone else) aren't willing to do that then we should sell them and find players who will.

i love our current XI but we need to have XXII if we want to be champions

[hutchy08]

he gets what wenger thinks his worth, he cant demand what he likes , maybe he is getting too big for his boots and thinks his indispensable.....he isn't!

[hutchy08]

Why? United have Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves and Scholes in CM.

exactly they play 3 in midfield so one is on the bench ...normally anderson , the young player with alot of potental or scholes the experienced old pro whos been there and done that!

that is why we will have vela and walcott to fill in for tomas and hleb young players with potential

you rarely and i mean rarely have 2 players in the same position that are of equal ability

do you have some inside arsenal information, because i've never heard this stuff. is it that our players aren't willing to sit or that they don't have to because we don't have the depth

no, without being arrogant, i just have a better understanding of how it all works

[Hussy]

flamini is no way worth 75k a week, yes he is a decent player, yes he has had a decent season, but is one season alone worth a contract of 75k a week??

if we give flamini 75k a week, then we might as well give the likes of eboue 75k to, might as well give justin hoyte a 50k a week contract to

[hutchy08]

exactly hussey, if we give flamini 75k then clichy, sagna and a few others not on the top money will want that!

then the players on the top money will want even more

and thats why we have a strict wage structure

[Hussy]

does it matter if we sign players that play in same positions as other players, isnt that what we call strength in depth, and even if we do sign players, it will kick some of our own players up the ars and realise that their place and possible future is at risk at arsenal if they dont preform

I think its a good thing having competion for places, but BUY SOME WINGERS WENGER

[CHRLS BRNSN]

exactly hussey, if we give flamini 75k then clichy, sagna and a few others not on the top money will want that!

then the players on the top money will want even more

and thats why we have a strict wage structure

oh well if that's the case then we can kiss goodbye to winning ANYTHING for ages.

[triplec1988]

The slipperly slope is a logical fallacy. Saying that if Flamini gets 70-75k a week means hoyte gets fifty is rediculous. Comparing Hoyte to Flamini is the worst thing you could have gone off of. For one, Flamini is a key part of this team, Hoyte is not. Arsene cares much more about keeping Flamini that he does about keeping Hoyte. Flamini, as with Clichy and Sagna has been one of our few consistant players all season. He has ahd a great year and I would say that at the moment, he is indespensible. Flamini knows our system, he knows England, he knows Cesc and Hleb and he knows the back four. He is in our system and he is accustomed to our play. His is young and talented and a huge part (or at least should be) of our plans going forward. On top of that, have you considered the time and money it will take to go about replacing Flamini. Never mind finding someone who can fill his boots for a Wenger price, but the time of adapting to the English game, if he is a foreigner, and then adapting to our team and system. Developing a link up between Cesc and Gallas. It is more hastle than its worth. Arsenal are in a great financial situation. We have the money for pay players like Flamini and Sagna and Clichy to stay. And if we don't then I believe that shows a really lack of quality in our front office. To allow a player as vital to our team and as talented as Flamini to just exit like that sends a message that we do not want to send. It says that this is not a place where talent stays, it is a place where it leaves.

[sooneragooner]

The last established world class player we bought was pre - Wenger.
The Dutch maestro - Dennis Bergkamp. If only we still had him or a player in his class that could make that killer ball over and over again.
Check out the videos and see how many of Freddy's and Le Bob's goals were made through his vision.

Nothing wrong with youth but the teams from 98 through to 04 were men whereas today's has a feel of a youth team with a sprinkling of older players for experience. There is no substitute for experience.

[Hussy]

i agree with the wage structure, but i also believe that players are worth their preformance, if flamini can do one more season at arsenal like this, then maybe we should think about giving him a rise, but not to that 75k mark.

I have had an idea for ages in regards to wages, and i wonder what you all think?

there is a standard wage for players at football clubs, so say for arsenal it would be 15k to put on an arsenal shirt, but the players wages are built then on preformance, they get their majority of the wages from club bonouses

apperance
clean sheet
goals scored
assists
win bonous
extra bonouses for hatricks

I truly think this would work, we would then see players wanting to play, wanting to win, and especillay at Arsenal wanting to score rather then pass the ball in to the net

i know they get bonouses already, but these bonouses would be alot higher then they are now because their basic wage would be alot lower

[triplec1988]

The problem with this, in regards to a player like Flamini is that it doesn't take the intangibles into account. A lot of what flamini does for us on the pitch has nothing to do with the stats sheet. his grit and presense on the pitch are super. And the problem with waiting to see if Flams turns in another great year is that if we do no compromise and give him much close to what his want then will be no next season asses his preformance. The bottom line is we need to keep players like this at the club. it sends the right signals to the fans and the player and the investors that we are a no bullshit kinda team who is out to win trophies and titles. Allows a team like this to be split up of money we have would just be stupid.